Today I purchased a new-to-me Monoprice Voxel 3D printer (https://monopricesupport.kayako.com/article/262-mp-voxel-3d-printer-introduction-setup.)
Recently, I saw an article about the ToyBox 3D printer, and it said that the printers were ready to go, out of the box. Also, they run between about $125-$175. I was thinking about getting one to show off at the meetup (wanting to get the non-hackers interested.)
One of my many tabs was open to a site called "OfferUp." I had never heard of OfferUp, and have no idea how that tab was opened there, but I gave it a try, and found the Monoprice, in good working condition, for $100. I was able to talk him down to $90, and went out today and picked it up. This Voxel is also a fully-assembled ready-to-go printer, and was designed for beginners (and while I am FAR from a beginner in electronics, I am a beginner in 3D printing.)
He was nice enough to bring a small amount of filament with him, and I was able to place the printer in my office (pictures coming) but have not been able to try it out yet, due to the pain in my back. Amazon had a nice assortment of eight spools of different colors for $44 (shortly after I ordered I saw a similar set for $39. ::) ) They should arrive Saturday, and hopefully I can test it out then, or Monday.
More to come...
Looks good, enjoy!
Thanks, Joe. Two of my grand-daughters are coming over today - I wish that it was next week, then I could do some printing with them.
Quote from: granz on Jul 24, 2025, 09:45 PMToday I purchased a new-to-me Monoprice Voxel 3D printer More to come...
I finally got a moment to watch the video. Nice...can't wait to see what you create with it.
Quote from: granz on Jul 25, 2025, 06:33 AMThanks, Joe. Two of my grand-daughters are coming over today - I wish that it was next week, then I could do some printing with them.
I bet
I was able to jury-rig a holder for the 1Kg spool (only a little bit of filament on it.) Printing a Benchy now, and Marilyn just said that the girls are here. Bye.
Quote from: granz on Jul 25, 2025, 06:33 AM.... Two of my grand-daughters are coming over today - I wish that it was next week, then I could do some printing with them.
I hope you enjoy your time with the grand kids. And, I hope your Monoprice Voxel 3D printer gives you many good prints.
Thanks, Benchy turned out a beautiful print, so I'm happy.
I took the girls to the Bushy Run Battlefield Museum (https://bushyrunbattlefield.com/,) and they loved it. Then we went to one of the few McDonald's which still has a Play Land (very close to our home,) and the girls played for about three hours. It was a great day.
Nice. Wonder why they taking em out??
Quote from: JKnightandKARR on Jul 28, 2025, 12:47 PMNice. Wonder why they taking em out??
Wonder why who is taking who out?
Quote from: granz on Jul 28, 2025, 01:17 PMQuote from: JKnightandKARR on Jul 28, 2025, 12:47 PMNice. Wonder why they taking em out??
Wonder why who is taking who out?
I ment they and the play places. Not just McDonalds, but everyone is.
Quote from: JKnightandKARR on Jul 28, 2025, 01:52 PMI ment they and the play places. Not just McDonalds, but everyone is.
I see. Well, I don't know for certain, but I would imagine that it is related to, what my son calls, the "law suit lottery." Hey, I want to be a millionaire so I'm going to sue until I win. The companies cannot deal with those crap-idiots costing them millions in legal defense; so they just shut play places, and other things, down. Those people are why we can't have nice things.
Printed one of the Small Breadboard With Power cases from:https://www.instructables.com/3D-Print-Electronic-Cases/
(https://content.instructables.com/FJG/QXIS/LQKXHDFZ/FJGQXISLQKXHDFZ.jpg)
It's pretty cool. The trouble was that I printed it with a raft, but should not have. I looked through all the settings for how to disable the raft - then finally found it in the slicer program - after the print sarted. ::) Some of the ridge for the sliding lid broke while trying to peel the raft away from the printed parts. So, another print is now under way (even though the first one will still work.)
Also, on order now, are some CR2032 rechargeable Li cells with charger, some of the coin-cell holders for this case, and a micrometer. The coin-cell holders should be here tomorrow, and by Wednesday, the other two should arrive.
Cute, little , teeny-tiny development device, with power. 8) Not sure that you could get much smaller. I'm thinking a small 8-pin DIP controller (maybe the ATtiny-11, or -85, with a couple LEDs - maybe sending out a Morse Code message.) It might look cool at the Meetup (https://savagechats.com/index.php?topic=366.0. Hey, maybe some of these could make nice door prizes! :)
Quote from: granz on Jul 28, 2025, 02:33 PMQuote from: JKnightandKARR on Jul 28, 2025, 01:52 PMI ment they and the play places. Not just McDonalds, but everyone is.
I see. Well, I don't know for certain, but I would imagine that it is related to, what my son calls, the "law suit lottery." Hey, I want to be a millionaire so I'm going to sue until I win. The companies cannot deal with those crap-idiots costing them millions in legal defense; so they just shut play places, and other things, down. Those people are why we can't have nice things.
Idiots and greed outta be outlawed...
Quote from: granz on Jul 28, 2025, 03:51 PMPrinted one of the Small Breadboard With Power cases from:https://www.instructables.com/3D-Print-Electronic-Cases/
(https://content.instructables.com/FJG/QXIS/LQKXHDFZ/FJGQXISLQKXHDFZ.jpg)
It's pretty cool. The trouble was that I printed it with a raft, but should not have. I looked through all the settings for how to disable the raft - then finally found it in the slicer program - after the print sarted. ::) Some of the ridge for the sliding lid broke while trying to peel the raft away from the printed parts. So, another print is now under way (even though the first one will still work.)
Also, on order now, are some CR2032 rechargeable Li cells with charger, some of the coin-cell holders for this case, and a micrometer. The coin-cell holders should be here tomorrow, and by Wednesday, the other two should arrive.
Cute, little , teeny-tiny development device, with power. 8) Not sure that you could get much smaller. I'm thinking a small 8-pin DIP controller (maybe the ATtiny-11, or -85, with a couple LEDs - maybe sending out a Morse Code message.) It might look cool at the Meetup (https://savagechats.com/index.php?topic=366.0. Hey, maybe some of these could make nice door prizes! :)
They don't make settings easy sometimes... I am trying to figure out the new slicers...
Quote from: granz on Jul 28, 2025, 03:51 PMPrinted one of the Small Breadboard With Power cases from:https://www.instructables.com/3D-Print-Electronic-Cases/
(https://content.instructables.com/FJG/QXIS/LQKXHDFZ/FJGQXISLQKXHDFZ.jpg)
It's pretty cool. ......
Also, on order now, are some CR2032 rechargeable Li cells with charger, some of the coin-cell holders for this case, and a micrometer. The coin-cell holders should be here tomorrow, and by Wednesday, the other two should arrive.
Cute, little , teeny-tiny development device, with power. 8) Not sure that you could get much smaller. I'm thinking a small 8-pin DIP controller (maybe the ATtiny-11, or -85, with a couple LEDs - maybe sending out a Morse Code message.) .....
I looked at the Instructable and watched the Video.
Looks like a nice way to package small projects, and put a 3D Printer to good use. 8)
Quote from: zappman on Jul 28, 2025, 06:58 PMI looked at the Instructable and watched the Video. Looks like a nice way to package small projects, and put a 3D Printer to good use. 8)
I just checked it out too. I've noticed a trend in tools for making 3D printing much easier for DIY users. For example, MakerWorld has this cool parametric box maker that I played with last week. Of course, I wanted to link it and now I can't find it. :-[
Agreed. From custom storage to even tools, there's alot new out there.
Well, my second Small Breadboard With Power case turned out pretty nice (no raft.) I used the "transparent" filament (which is actually more translucent) and it is cool being able to see the breadboard inside it. There are only two of those tiny breadboards in my supply cabinet, one blue and one white. The blue one was used in my first case, and I will use the white one in my latest case. I need to order some more.
The coin-cell holders should arrive today, and the cells themselves should arrive tomorrow. I can hardly wait to assemble these things and play around with them.
Quote from: granz on Jul 29, 2025, 07:10 AMWell, my second Small Breadboard With Power case turned out pretty nice (no raft.) I used the "transparent" filament (which is actually more translucent) and it is cool being able to see the breadboard inside it. There are only two of those tiny breadboards in my supply cabinet, one blue and one white. The blue one was used in my first case, and I will use the white one in my latest case. I need to order some more.
The coin-cell holders should arrive today, and the cells themselves should arrive tomorrow. I can hardly wait to assemble these things and play around with them.
Mmmmhhhhh. Cleeeeaaaaar......
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0059/8212/6114/files/256-2562494_pink-simpsons-donuts-freetoedit-homer-simpson-hd-png_480x480.png?v=1655242910)
Quote from: granz on Jul 29, 2025, 07:10 AMWell, my second Small Breadboard With Power case turned out pretty nice (no raft.) I used the "transparent" filament (which is actually more translucent) and it is cool being able to see the breadboard inside it.
Do you have a photo of the translucent print? Curious to see what it looks like.
Quote from: Chris Savage on Jul 29, 2025, 09:55 AMQuote from: granz on Jul 29, 2025, 07:10 AMWell, my second Small Breadboard With Power case turned out pretty nice (no raft.) I used the "transparent" filament (which is actually more translucent) and it is cool being able to see the breadboard inside it.
Do you have a photo of the translucent print? Curious to see what it looks like.
I don't have a photo of the ones i did clear, with me, but turned out pretty cool, though its not clear like glass, his results might vary.
Quote from: Chris Savage on Jul 29, 2025, 09:55 AMDo you have a photo of the translucent print? Curious to see what it looks like.
More troubles with Bluehost (at least it seems to be them,) attachments not getting through. Hope these show up; well, here goes...(https://files.granzeier.com/Downloads/SavageCircuits/BreadbdCase-1.jpg)
The first case (on the right,) and the new one not yet assembled.(https://files.granzeier.com/Downloads/SavageCircuits/BreadbdCase-3.jpg)
A closer look at the assembled case. Note that the sliding door did not fit correctly, I think that this was because of the trouble removing the raft. I'll fix that when I receive the coin cells, and holders.This transparent filament was from my order of this set:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09TR9FXBL
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81aMNdpkTRL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)
Quote from: granz on Jul 29, 2025, 12:02 PMQuote from: Chris Savage on Jul 29, 2025, 09:55 AMDo you have a photo of the translucent print? Curious to see what it looks like.
More troubles with Bluehost (at least it seems to be them,) attachments not getting through. Hope these show up; well, here goes...
(https://files.granzeier.com/Downloads/SavageCircuits/BreadbdCase-1.jpg)
The first case (on the right,) and the new one not yet assembled.
(https://files.granzeier.com/Downloads/SavageCircuits/BreadbdCase-3.jpg)
A closer look at the assembled case. Note that the sliding door did not fit correctly, I think that this was because of the trouble removing the raft. I'll fix that when I receive the coin cells, and holders.
This transparent filament was from my order of this set:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09TR9FXBL
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81aMNdpkTRL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)
Nice!
Quote from: granz on Jul 29, 2025, 12:02 PMMore troubles with Bluehost (at least it seems to be them,) attachments not getting through. Hope these show up; well, here goes...
Until I got home, all I could see was the spools. I can now see the enclosures.
Quote from: Chris Savage on Jul 29, 2025, 10:24 PMQuote from: granz on Jul 29, 2025, 12:02 PMMore troubles with Bluehost (at least it seems to be them,) attachments not getting through. Hope these show up; well, here goes...
Until I got home, all I could see was the spools. I can now see the enclosures.
The picture of those spools comes from Amazon, from the page of the filament pack that I purchased. The pictures of the cases are from my web site. Apparently, your work router/firewall is blocking my site. Probably because Bluehost allows crapware/garbage to get onto my site; I can't trust Bluehost any more.
Quote from: granz on Jul 30, 2025, 06:56 AMApparently, your work router/firewall is blocking my site. Probably because Bluehost allows crapware/garbage to get onto my site; I can't trust Bluehost any more.
I knew that was the case, but I mentioned it to point out that I am glad you described what you posted and mentioned the stuff from your site. In that aspect I realized what was happening. Bluehost SUCKS! LOL :P
In another thread, I posted:
Quote from: granz on Aug 07, 2025, 08:25 PMIn addition to all the other stuff I have, my youngest son is getting married in Dec, and their wedding theme is the movie "Up." I have been trying to print something from that movie, but having troubles with the prints. Currently printing a Benchy, to see if the trouble is with my printer, or the "Up" files that I have been trying.
Well, just checked again, and Benchy - which printed perfectly as my first print - is total trash. :'( I already cleaned the print bed with alcohol, next is to try glue stick. If that doesn't work, time to check other possibilities.
Also, I found, and purchased, another Monoprice Voxel, for $100. It is in Cleveland, and does not offer shipping. Peter said that he can pick it up. Hopefully, the seller will give me the address soon; Peter is coming to Pittsburgh Saturday, and he is supposed to bring it with him.
Moving this conversation back to the 3D Printer board, for continuity.It occurred to me that the only thing that printed properly with the new white filament was a very tiny copy of the "Up" house, with balloons. Everything after that was garbage, even the Benchy that printed fine with the original orange filament from the seller. I had also printed a copy of the "Sear's Tower" (new name is the Willis Tower, but former residents of Chicago still know it as the Sear's Tower) in a nice deep blue; it printed fine.
So, as a test, I started a print of the "Up" house with the blue. Whaddya Know - it's printing fine. You can even see the spool with the garden hose, by the front porch. It seems that the white filament is messed up. It could be that the filament absorbed too much moisture - although it arrived vacuum sealed, with dessicant, so that doesn't seem likely. Tomorrow (or whenever I can) I'll put it into our dehydrator, and see if that helps. I'm not happy that the new filament (just opened it today) is bad, but really glad that the printer still seems fine.
Well, definitely not standard housing. Extremely sub-standard workmanship, and totally inadequate materials. Need a new contractor. >:(
(https://files.granzeier.com/Downloads/SavageCircuits/Up%20House.jpeg)
The base started very well, but as you can see, the rest was almost not there. Anyone have any ideas about this?
Quote from: granz on Aug 08, 2025, 08:32 AMThe base started very well, but as you can see, the rest was almost not there. Anyone have any ideas about this?
I am guessing there's a photo? If so, I will have to wait until I get home to comment as I don't see the image.
As a comparison, here is Chicago's Willis Tower, formerly the Sear's Tower - tallest building in the world, at the time it was built:
(https://files.granzeier.com/Downloads/SavageCircuits/Willis%20Tower.jpeg)
Same printer, same filament, looks great. Why the difference?
Quote from: Chris Savage on Aug 08, 2025, 08:46 AMQuote from: granz on Aug 08, 2025, 08:32 AMThe base started very well, but as you can see, the rest was almost not there. Anyone have any ideas about this?
I am guessing there's a photo? If so, I will have to wait until I get home to comment as I don't see the image.
Yep, same issue as before. I'll be transferring my hosting company when I get back from my Illinois trip.
Looks good.
Quote from: JKnightandKARR on Aug 08, 2025, 10:54 AMLooks good.
?!?!?!
The Sear's Tower looks good, but Ellie and Carl's house from "Up" looks horrific!
Quote from: granz on Aug 08, 2025, 12:58 PMQuote from: JKnightandKARR on Aug 08, 2025, 10:54 AMLooks good.
?!?!?!
The Sear's Tower looks good, but Ellie and Carl's house from "Up" looks horrific!
LOL that's NOT the one I was referring to. the tower. Your house, you need to sue the contractor.
Quote from: JKnightandKARR on Aug 08, 2025, 09:36 PMLOL that's NOT the one I was referring to. the tower. Your house, you need to sue the contractor.
LOL. Yeah, it looks much worse than when Ellie and Carl bought it. We are thinking of complaining to the contractor's union. ;D
Yesterday, I purchased another one of these Voxels. It was for local pickup, but was in Cleveland - my son picked it up last night. He, and his fiance are coming down for a picnic, so he is bringing it. I was thinking of giving it to him as an early wedding gift and so was looking at filament. In looking over the filament variety pack that I purchased, I noticed some temp, and speed, specs. They are not what the slicer was set to. So, I re-sliced the house model, and will try it after our picnic, tonight.
Quote from: granz on Aug 09, 2025, 06:07 AMIn looking over the filament variety pack that I purchased, I noticed some temp, and speed, specs. They are not what the slicer was set to. So, I re-sliced the house model, and will try it after our picnic, tonight.
Well, the settings are supposedly correct for the filament that I purchased.
(https://files.granzeier.com/Downloads/SavageCircuits/Up%20House%20Worse.jpeg)
(I cancelled this before it finished, when I saw how bad it was turning out.)This is absolute crap - even worse than the blue one that started well.
For comparison, this is what it is supposed to look like:
(https://cdn.thingiverse.com/renders/e6/0e/57/63/72/Up_house_with_hook_display_large.jpg)
Carl's House (From Pixar's Up) Balloon Weight (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:358635)
Does anyone have any ideas as to what is causing these disasters?
Quote from: granz on Aug 10, 2025, 08:28 PMDoes anyone have any ideas as to what is causing these disasters?
The only time I have had issue like that was related to moisture, but I am still kind of a n00b, so I don't have a lot of experience with all the things that can go wrong.
Did you ever figure out what happened with your "spaghetti man" mess?
(https://savagechats.com/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=403;preview)
Quote from: granz on Aug 11, 2025, 06:44 AMDid you ever figure out what happened with your "spaghetti man" mess?
I'm afraid I will never know. I don't use the time-lapse feature and in this one instance, I didn't wait until a few layers were down to walk away. Usually I hang out until the print is underway, just to make sure there are no filament issues.
In looking around for this trouble, ALL3DP had a page about troubleshooting print failures.
https://all3dp.com/1/common-3d-printing-problems-troubleshooting-3d-printer-issues/
About 3/4 of the way down the page, there is this:
(https://i.all3dp.com/workers/images/fit=scale-down,w=1456,gravity=0.5x0.5,format=auto/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/09132451/underextrusion-2.jpg)
It looks very similar to what I am experiencing. I will try some of their fix actions, and see what happens (after my vacation, of course. :'( )
Quote from: granz on Aug 11, 2025, 10:40 AMIn looking around for this trouble, ALL3DP had a page about troubleshooting print failures. About 3/4 of the way down the page, there is this. It looks very similar to what I am experiencing. I will try some of their fix actions, and see what happens (after my vacation, of course. :'( )
As I am at work, I am wondering what it is indicating could be your issue?
Quote from: All 3D PrintingCauses
Partially clogged nozzle
Even something as innocuous as switching between low and high-temperature materials can result in a blockage, as remnant material is subject to a temperature it is not designed for. Low temperature materials like PLA can burn up, leaving charred debris, and higher temp materials simply don't flow and interfere with smooth flow at lower temperatures.
Likewise, using fiber-filled materials such as PLA-CF, can result in a buildup of particles and debris.
Heat creep
Not all hot ends are designed equally, and some simply don't do well with too much heat. The characteristics of some filaments mean that certain printing conditions, such as printing PLA in an enclosed 3D printer with insufficient cooling, can result in softer filament plugging the filament path above the point where it should melt. This is, in simple terms, what heat creep is, and it can be a pain to unblock.
Dirty extruder feed gears
Set too tight, your extruder idler tension can cause the drive gears to chew the surface of the filament, generating plastic dust that can clog up the toothed profile of the gear, reducing its ability to smoothly grip and feed the material.
I'm thinking of running several centimeters of filament (small box model, or something) through the extruder at higher temp, and lower feed speed. Another thing that they say to check is to try clearing the nozzle manually. Worst case, there have been a few people who say that replacing the nozzle (about $35) makes the printer run like new. After that, I'll need to make sure to set the printer settings correctly.
Quote from: granz on Aug 11, 2025, 11:21 AMDirty extruder feed gears
How
do the extruder gears look?
Quote from: Chris Savage on Aug 11, 2025, 11:46 AMQuote from: granz on Aug 11, 2025, 11:21 AMDirty extruder feed gears
How do the extruder gears look?
They looked fine to me. Is that a very common trouble? Is that something that I need to give a close look?
Quote from: granz on Aug 11, 2025, 02:53 PMThey looked fine to me. Is that a very common trouble? Is that something that I need to give a close look?
I just figured that was an easy one to rule out. More so than the nozzle issue.
Quote from: Chris Savage on Aug 11, 2025, 06:56 PMQuote from: granz on Aug 11, 2025, 02:53 PMThey looked fine to me. Is that a very common trouble? Is that something that I need to give a close look?
I just figured that was an easy one to rule out. More so than the nozzle issue.
Oh yeah, the gear set is easily seen in the filament bay. They look OK. Thanks for the suggestion.
Quote from: granz on Aug 12, 2025, 06:31 AMOh yeah, the gear set is easily seen in the filament bay. They look OK. Thanks for the suggestion.
No problem. I know for mine I need only take the cover plate off, which is held on by magnets.
Yep, and for the Voxel, when you remove the cover for the filament bay, it is there in all its "naked" glory. :P
With that trouble-shooting page above indicating that I may have extrusion troubles, I found a video about cleaning my extruder (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxbvzLBtlG0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxbvzLBtlG0).) So, a cleaning tool (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F9XSHJS9 $5 with shipping) is on order. It should get here tomorrow, and then I will try cleaning the extruder and see if that fixes the trouble. If not, I may need to get a new extruder (here's hoping that cleaning works.)
Quote from: granz on Aug 19, 2025, 09:19 PMWith that trouble-shooting page above indicating that I may have extrusion troubles, I found a video about cleaning my extruder (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxbvzLBtlG0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxbvzLBtlG0).) So, a cleaning tool (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F9XSHJS9 $5 with shipping) is on order. It should get here tomorrow, and then I will try cleaning the extruder and see if that fixes the trouble. If not, I may need to get a new extruder (here's hoping that cleaning works.)
I'll check that tool out, thanks! I just have a 0.4 mm drill bit, and it's NOT flexible.... as for the clog, maybe, that's one of the things about FDM printers that's a pain...
Quote from: JKnightandKARR on Aug 19, 2025, 10:09 PMI'll check that tool out, thanks! I just have a 0.4 mm drill bit, and it's NOT flexible.... as for the clog, maybe, that's one of the things about FDM printers that's a pain...
As I understand it, you want something that is flexible, and has a rough surface. You heat up the extruder then ram the tool through, and it needs to grab as much of the filament as possible. Next, you feed some more filament through and then let it cool enough that it is still a bit flexible but had melted to the old filament clogging the extruder - then you pull the filament back out to remove the rest of the old filament from the extruder. The video (although it is specifically for the Voxel/Adventure 3 printer) explains pretty well what, and why.
The video was put out by Jaycar, which is kind of like the Sparkfun, or Adafruit, of Australia. They seem to be hobbyists themselves, and have a hobbyist interest in their products. Also, like the old
South West Technical Products Company (SWTPC) they produced a lot of the kits for articles in
Electronics Australia magazine.
Well, after a cleaning per that Jaycar video, I started another Benchy. So far it is looking really good. Photos coming in a little while.
The video shows the woman cleaning by pushing the tool from the top, all the way through the nozzle. My tool is not long enough to go all the way through, so I just did the best I could. After I started the Benchy print, I went back to Amazon to try to find a longer tool. I was a bit shocked to see the photos of people starting at the bottom, and going up the nozzle. Duh! I should have thought of that. :-[ But, as I said, the print seems to be going well.
Quote from: granz on Aug 20, 2025, 12:58 PMWell, after a cleaning per that Jaycar video, I started another Benchy. So far it is looking really good. Photos coming in a little while.
The video shows the woman cleaning by pushing the tool from the top, all the way through the nozzle. My tool is not long enough to go all the way through, so I just did the best I could. After I started the Benchy print, I went back to Amazon to try to find a longer tool. I was a bit shocked to see the photos of people starting at the bottom, and going up the nozzle. Duh! I should have thought of that. :-[ But, as I said, the print seems to be going well.
Will watch n clean mine, and print the mounts for the Z-Probes. Might as well switch to automatic n see if that helps right?
Here is my most recent Benchy:
(https://files.granzeier.com/Downloads/SavageCircuits/Benchy%20-%20Blue.jpg)
Not bad, but still quite a bit of stringing.
I went through the cleaning again, and tried the Up house again:
(https://files.granzeier.com/Downloads/SavageCircuits/Up%20House%20-%20Nozzle%20Cleaned.jpg)
Much better, but far from decent.
I did try going up through the nozzle, but it doesn't seem to have helped much (a little, but not enough.) I'm thinking that I need to get the longer cleaning tool, like the Jaycar video shows. Unfortunately, I did not see the tool by itself, and the 3d printing tool kit that contains the tool is pretty expensive. I need to search their site, and Amazon, to see if I can find the long "ram rod tool."
Well, so much for Jaycar - they do not ship to the USA. They will ship via Australia Post (if Australia Post ships to my location,) but it requires a special account with their post office - and the minimum shipping price is AU$ 30! :o
Continuing with searching for the tool on Amazon - unless any of you know of a good place to look. It looks like the tool will need to be about 10-15cm long.
Quote from: granz on Aug 20, 2025, 08:15 PMWell, so much for Jaycar - they do not ship to the USA. They will ship via Australia Post (if Australia Post ships to my location,) but it requires a special account with their post office - and the minimum shipping price is AU$ 30! :o
Continuing with searching for the tool on Amazon - unless any of you know of a good place to look. It looks like the tool will need to be about 10-15cm long.
is that for that cleaning kit you posted?
Quote from: JKnightandKARR on Aug 20, 2025, 10:27 PMis that for that cleaning kit you posted?
Do you mean the Amazon cleaning kit (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F9XSHJS9)? No, that is just a set of "clog poke" (funny name) tools.
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61+-kpsO50L._SL1500_.jpg)
The Jaycar tool kit is a pretty nice kit (https://www.jaycar.com.au/3d-printing-toolkit/p/TD2132 (https://www.jaycar.com.au/3d-printing-toolkit/p/TD2132),) but AU$64 (plus shipping - minimum or AU$30) is pretty steep.
(https://media.jaycar.com.au/product/images/TD2132_3d-printing-toolkit_89868.jpg?format=webp&width=1000)
I found this one (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D3HLTWF6?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title) on Amazon:
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31PpZJxPsyL._SL1000_.jpg)
This one looks to be long enough to go completely through the entire extruder, including the nozzle. I also ordered a few wire brushes to clean up the nozzle it self.
Quote from: granz on Aug 21, 2025, 06:58 AMQuote from: JKnightandKARR on Aug 20, 2025, 10:27 PMis that for that cleaning kit you posted?
Do you mean the Amazon cleaning kit (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F9XSHJS9)? No, that is just a set of "clog poke" (funny name) tools.
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61+-kpsO50L._SL1500_.jpg)
The Jaycar tool kit is a pretty nice kit (https://www.jaycar.com.au/3d-printing-toolkit/p/TD2132 (https://www.jaycar.com.au/3d-printing-toolkit/p/TD2132),) but AU$64 (plus shipping - minimum or AU$30) is pretty steep.
(https://media.jaycar.com.au/product/images/TD2132_3d-printing-toolkit_89868.jpg?format=webp&width=1000)
I found this one (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D3HLTWF6?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title) on Amazon:
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31PpZJxPsyL._SL1000_.jpg)
This one looks to be long enough to go completely through the entire extruder, including the nozzle. I also ordered a few wire brushes to clean up the nozzle it self.
Got ya. That's very costly for a kit with tools when you can make the same thing yourself... I know the nozzle, providing are the same size is 6mm/ 1/4". I need to get a cleaning kit myself.
Quote from: JKnightandKARR on Aug 21, 2025, 11:52 AMI know the nozzle, providing are the same size is 6mm/ 1/4". I need to get a cleaning kit myself.
Careful; that
1/
4" nozzle size is ONLY the mounting screw base. The nozzle itself (the hole that the filament comes out) is only 0.4
mm! If you try to run a
1/
4" clog poke through it, you will damage, or destroy, the nozzle.
I should get my clog poke today, and will let you know how it works. It is a 0.4mm tool, and should not damage the nozzle.
Well, in trying to figure this stuff out, I violated one of the prime rules of the Scientific Method (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method): minimize the variables.
My test print of the Up house, last night, had me change two major variables: I cleaned out the extruder again; plus I connected to the printer through the WiFi. It turns out that the ForgePrint slicing program that I used to send the gcode file to the printer does not use the same settings as when I save the gcode file to my hard drive. So, I don't know whether the cleaning, or the WiFi connection, caused troubles.
In addition, trying to print without the WiFi connection, resulted in absolutely no filament being extruded! Now I need to try to figure out what caused that. Arggh! >:(
Per norm with Amazon; the tools that I ordered yesterday, and were supposed to be received today, now show that they are supposed to be delivered tomorrow.
So, "same bat time, same bat channel, tomorrow." (https://www.quora.com/What-does-Same-bat-time-same-bat-channel-mean)
Quote from: granz on Aug 21, 2025, 12:10 PMQuote from: JKnightandKARR on Aug 21, 2025, 11:52 AMI know the nozzle, providing are the same size is 6mm/ 1/4". I need to get a cleaning kit myself.
Careful; that 1/4" nozzle size is ONLY the mounting screw base. The nozzle itself (the hole that the filament comes out) is only 0.4mm! If you try to run a 1/4" clog poke through it, you will damage, or destroy, the nozzle.
I should get my clog poke today, and will let you know how it works. It is a 0.4mm tool, and should not damage the nozzle.
I'm talking wrench to remove nozzle. I have 2- 0.4mm drillbits, VERY small.
Quote from: JKnightandKARR on Aug 22, 2025, 10:06 AMI'm talking wrench to remove nozzle. I have 2- 0.4mm drillbits, VERY small.
Very small indeed. When I was checking out my last clog poke tools, I stabbed my finger (not even enough to draw blood, just enough to say "ouch",) with one of the smaller tools.
Quote from: granz on Aug 21, 2025, 07:55 PMPer norm with Amazon; the tools that I ordered yesterday, and were supposed to be received today, now show that they are supposed to be delivered tomorrow.
So, "same bat time, same bat channel, tomorrow." (https://www.quora.com/What-does-Same-bat-time-same-bat-channel-mean)
Well, it won't be the same bat time; it still has not arrived - although Amazon still says it should arrive today. Tomorrow we get up at oh dark thirty (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/oh_dark_thirty,) and spend half the day taking a friend of ours to see her great-great-grandnephew (she is 90 years old, and can no longer drive.) It is an hour drive to pick her up, then another hour to pick up her nephew and about fifteen minutes to a restaurant. Then I get to have a nice breakfast with Marilyn, followed by the return trip (this is a
very close friend, all of our kids and grand-kids call her Aunt Shirley.) By the time we get home, we just want to sit and chill. I may feel like trying out the tools tomorrow, but maybe not.
Quote from: granz on Aug 22, 2025, 05:21 PMQuote from: JKnightandKARR on Aug 22, 2025, 10:06 AMI'm talking wrench to remove nozzle. I have 2- 0.4mm drillbits, VERY small.
Very small indeed. When I was checking out my last clog poke tools, I stabbed my finger (not even enough to draw blood, just enough to say "ouch",) with one of the smaller tools.
did that too.
Well, I finally got my tools. About 8:30 this evening, Marilyn, and I, were going out to sit on our porch swing, and I saw the package on the porch floor.
Too late to do anything tonight, and tomorrow being the Christian Sabbath, I try to keep it set apart for Church and family. So, I'll probably not test it out until Monday.
Quote from: granz on Aug 23, 2025, 09:39 PMWell, I finally got my tools. About 8:30 this evening, Marilyn, and I, were going out to sit on our porch swing, and I saw the package on the porch floor.
Too late to do anything tonight, and tomorrow being the Christian Sabbath, I try to keep it set apart for Church and family. So, I'll probably not test it out until Monday.
good luck!
Quote from: JKnightandKARR on Aug 23, 2025, 09:58 PMQuote from: granz on Aug 23, 2025, 09:39 PMWell, I finally got my tools. About 8:30 this evening, Marilyn, and I, were going out to sit on our porch swing, and I saw the package on the porch floor.
Too late to do anything tonight, and tomorrow being the Christian Sabbath, I try to keep it set apart for Church and family. So, I'll probably not test it out until Monday.
good luck!
Thank you. After some time, excitement starts to wear off. I need to start getting some success, or its going to be rough keeping interest in this 3D printing. :(
Quote from: granz on Aug 24, 2025, 06:04 AMQuote from: JKnightandKARR on Aug 23, 2025, 09:58 PMQuote from: granz on Aug 23, 2025, 09:39 PMWell, I finally got my tools. About 8:30 this evening, Marilyn, and I, were going out to sit on our porch swing, and I saw the package on the porch floor.
Too late to do anything tonight, and tomorrow being the Christian Sabbath, I try to keep it set apart for Church and family. So, I'll probably not test it out until Monday.
good luck!
Thank you. After some time, excitement starts to wear off. I need to start getting some success, or its going to be rough keeping interest in this 3D printing. :(
Frustrating, but the rewards are great! Just gotta learn what issues with what fixes.
Quote from: JKnightandKARR on Aug 24, 2025, 05:35 PMQuote from: granz on Aug 24, 2025, 06:04 AMQuote from: JKnightandKARR on Aug 23, 2025, 09:58 PMQuote from: granz on Aug 23, 2025, 09:39 PMWell, I finally got my tools. About 8:30 this evening, Marilyn, and I, were going out to sit on our porch swing, and I saw the package on the porch floor.
Too late to do anything tonight, and tomorrow being the Christian Sabbath, I try to keep it set apart for Church and family. So, I'll probably not test it out until Monday.
good luck!
Thank you. After some time, excitement starts to wear off. I need to start getting some success, or its going to be rough keeping interest in this 3D printing. :(
Frustrating, but the rewards are great! Just gotta learn what issues with what fixes.
That's what I keep telling myself. I got up this morning, feeling pretty good - I was able to do all my exercises (haven't done that regularly since before our trip to Illinois) and looking forward to taking my walk (not at all since the beginning of Aug.) So, I should be good for getting some work done on my printer.
Sometimes, I just feel like crying:
(https://files.granzeier.com/Downloads/SavageCircuits/Crying.jpeg)
I have spent so much time on this 3D printing stuff, just to end up with a huge pile of crap. It's so frustrating. Maybe I'm just not supposed to be able to print 3D stuff. :'(
The only thing left, that I can think of, is to replace the nozzle, or the entire extruder assembly. The nozzle runs about $30-$40, and I haven't been able to find the extruder assembly yet. The idea of paying 1/3 of the cost of the entire printer, just on the chance of having a good printer, is a bit rough on my mind. If I had some kind of assurance that it would work, then it would ease the pain. (Although, I did see one posting, where the person did replace the nozzle, or extruder - I forget which, and said that it was like a brand new printer. I may need to bite the bullet, and shell out the bucks.)
Quote from: granz on Aug 25, 2025, 04:14 PMSometimes, I just feel like crying:
(https://files.granzeier.com/Downloads/SavageCircuits/Crying.jpeg)
I have spent so much time on this 3D printing stuff, just to end up with a huge pile of crap. It's so frustrating. Maybe I'm just not supposed to be able to print 3D stuff. :'(
The only thing left, that I can think of, is to replace the nozzle, or the entire extruder assembly. The nozzle runs about $30-$40, and I haven't been able to find the extruder assembly yet. The idea of paying 1/3 of the cost of the entire printer, just on the chance of having a good printer, is a bit rough on my mind. If I had some kind of assurance that it would work, then it would ease the pain. (Although, I did see one posting, where the person did replace the nozzle, or extruder - I forget which, and said that it was like a brand new printer. I may need to bite the bullet, and shell out the bucks.)
What does the nozzle look like?? If it's like the Neptune 2, those are really cheap.
Edit: looked. Do you just replace the whole hotend assembly to change nozzles??
Quote from: JKnightandKARR on Aug 25, 2025, 04:18 PMWhat does the nozzle look like?? If it's like the Neptune 2, those are really cheap.
Edit: looked. Do you just replace the whole hotend assembly to change nozzles??
Yeah, it looks like you replace the entire hotend. If that's all that I need, I found one for $35, with two-day delivery (less than $2 more than one which will be delivered in later Sept. >:( ) If I need the entire assembly, then that raises it up to $85 (with tax, that is over the price of my printer, plus shipping, no estimate on shipping cost, nor do they even try to give a delivery date.) I also found an extruder assembly on Amazon, but that is $130, plus tax, and delivery is also the second half of September. >:(
I'm going to quit for now. Maybe after an evening with my girl-friend (best friend/buddy/partner/lover/wife ;) ) and a good night's sleep, things won't looks so bad.
Quote from: granz on Aug 25, 2025, 04:56 PMQuote from: JKnightandKARR on Aug 25, 2025, 04:18 PMWhat does the nozzle look like?? If it's like the Neptune 2, those are really cheap.
Edit: looked. Do you just replace the whole hotend assembly to change nozzles??
Yeah, it looks like you replace the entire hotend. If that's all that I need, I found one for $35, with two-day delivery (less than $2 more than one which will be delivered in later Sept. >:( ) If I need the entire assembly, then that raises it up to $85 (with tax, that is over the price of my printer, plus shipping, no estimate on shipping cost, nor do they even try to give a delivery date.) I also found an extruder assembly on Amazon, but that is $130, plus tax, and delivery is also the second half of September. >:(
I'm going to quit for now. Maybe after an evening with my girl-friend (best friend/buddy/partner/lover/wife ;) ) and a good night's sleep, things won't looks so bad.
I'll do some research too see if I can find other options, thats kinda stupid to me that you gotta replace part of the machine vs just a small nozzle.. Always good to walk away n break when stuff gets annoying.
Well, I just went ahead and ordered that hotend (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WWCVCK7 (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WWCVCK7).) It should be here on Thursday; we shall see.
One thing that I have noticed about the Voxel is that the little arm, on the side of the printer, that holds the filament spool is almost useless. If the filament door is not on, any movement of the spool will cause it to fall off the holder arm. I need to design something that will hold the spool in place, even if the door is not on. Not a good design, but if I can get the printer working it should be easy to fix. ::)
Quote from: Chris Savage on Jul 28, 2025, 08:42 PMI've noticed a trend in tools for making 3D printing much easier for DIY users. For example, MakerWorld has this cool parametric box maker that I played with last week. Of course, I wanted to link it and now I can't find it. :-[
Chris,
Can you give an overview of how you use "parametric" 3D designs, please? The only thing that I could find was to use OpenSCAD. I started the intro, but the scripting seems to have a rather steep learning curve, at least for anything more than a simple box-type dsign.
Quote from: granz on Aug 26, 2025, 10:42 PMCan you give an overview of how you use "parametric" 3D designs, please? The only thing that I could find was to use OpenSCAD. I started the intro, but the scripting seems to have a rather steep learning curve, at least for anything more than a simple box-type dsign.
I'm still learning (read: started over) on FreeCAD. Many videos for it, but you have to watch the dates, because there were a
LOT of videos out when it was in Beta, and things have a changed a bit. Still, it's free and fairly easy to learn.
You don't
have to do parametric modeling, but for things that scale or have complimentary parts, it helps to just assign the parametric data while you're developing the model. For example, if you have an enclosure and you changed a fillet on a corner, all the other fillets will change too. Saves you from having to manually redo each one.
Another way parametric modeling works is, say you scale the enclosure. The related sides scale automatically. So if you widen an end, both ends widen the same, if linked.
FreedCAD: Your own 3D parametric modeler (https://www.freecad.org/)
Quote from: Chris Savage on Aug 27, 2025, 09:00 AMQuote from: granz on Aug 26, 2025, 10:42 PMCan you give an overview of how you use "parametric" 3D designs, please? The only thing that I could find was to use OpenSCAD. I started the intro, but the scripting seems to have a rather steep learning curve, at least for anything more than a simple box-type dsign.
I'm still learning (read: started over) on FreeCAD. Many videos for it, but you have to watch the dates, because there were a LOT of videos out when it was in Beta, and things have a changed a bit. Still, it's free and fairly easy to learn.
You don't have to do parametric modeling, but for things that scale or have complimentary parts, it helps to just assign the parametric data while you're developing the model. For example, if you have an enclosure and you changed a fillet on a corner, all the other fillets will change too. Saves you from having to manually redo each one.
Another way parametric modeling works is, say you scale the enclosure. The related sides scale automatically. So if you widen an end, both ends widen the same, if linked.
FreedCAD: Your own 3D parametric modeler (https://www.freecad.org/)
So, the parametric models with which you were playing were in FreeCAD? Do you still have any parametric models that I can play with to see how they work?
Quote from: granz on Aug 27, 2025, 03:41 PMSo, the parametric models with which you were playing were in FreeCAD? Do you still have any parametric models that I can play with to see how they work?
Well, yes, I could send you a model using parametric designs parameters, but it would be in the FreeCAD format, as it has to be in the correct design mode for all that to work. Once exported to a printable model, the parametric features aren't integrated. You can to go back to the original design file, make changes and then export it again. I just wanted to be clear on that.
Quote from: Chris Savage on Aug 27, 2025, 04:32 PMQuote from: granz on Aug 27, 2025, 03:41 PMSo, the parametric models with which you were playing were in FreeCAD? Do you still have any parametric models that I can play with to see how they work?
Well, yes, I could send you a model using parametric designs parameters, but it would be in the FreeCAD format, as it has to be in the correct design mode for all that to work. Once exported to a printable model, the parametric features aren't integrated. You can to go back to the original design file, make changes and then export it again. I just wanted to be clear on that.
Okay, that makes sense. From what I've seen about FreeCAD, it looks like it will have an easier learning curve than OpenSCAD. I should really familiarize myself with some of FreeCAD stuff anyway. So, if you don't mind...
Thanks
Quote from: granz on Aug 27, 2025, 05:38 PMOkay, that makes sense. From what I've seen about FreeCAD, it looks like it will have an easier learning curve than OpenSCAD. I should really familiarize myself with some of FreeCAD stuff anyway. So, if you don't mind...Thanks
I don't mind...I have an enclosure that is set up with parametric modeling in FreeCAD. When I get home tonight, I will dig it out and email it to you. It will probably be late evening, since I have to make dinner tonight for us, since Valerie is getting out of work at 7P. Taco Thursday. ;D
Quote from: Chris Savage on Aug 28, 2025, 08:00 AMI don't mind...I have an enclosure that is set up with parametric modeling in FreeCAD. When I get home tonight, I will dig it out and email it to you. It will probably be late evening, since I have to make dinner tonight for us, since Valerie is getting out of work at 7P. Taco Thursday. ;D
Thank you.
Quote from: granz on Aug 28, 2025, 12:51 PMThank you.
If you notice the time I am currently online, you will understand why I never sent you that file. We have plans tomorrow after work, so let me get that for you on Saturday?
Quote from: Chris Savage on Aug 28, 2025, 09:56 PMQuote from: granz on Aug 28, 2025, 12:51 PMThank you.
If you notice the time I am currently online, you will understand why I never sent you that file. We have plans tomorrow after work, so let me get that for you on Saturday?
No troubles - take all the time you need. I have plenty to do already.
Now that the meetup is over, my next project has to be getting this (and/or my Neptune) printer up and running (after I get my main computer up and running.) I have too many things that need 3D printing, so a printer must be next.
Simultaneously, I will be putting stuff up for sale, to free up some space so that I can concentrate on projects that I want to do.
Quote from: granz on Sep 28, 2025, 09:43 PMNow that the meetup is over, my next project has to be getting this (and/or my Neptune) printer up and running (after I get my main computer up and running.) I have too many things that need 3D printing, so a printer must be next.
Good luck, granz!
Quote from: Chris Savage on Oct 03, 2025, 02:19 PMQuote from: granz on Sep 28, 2025, 09:43 PMNow that the meetup is over, my next project has to be getting this (and/or my Neptune) printer up and running (after I get my main computer up and running.) I have too many things that need 3D printing, so a printer must be next.
Good luck, granz!
Thank you, but this week has been a total bust, so far. I still haven't gotten everything put back on my computer, and I have had terrible pain three out of five days this week. Plus we have had out of the house appointments for every day except for Monday - when we were too tired to do anything. Well, next week should be better - I hope.
Quote from: granz on Oct 03, 2025, 06:04 PMQuote from: Chris Savage on Oct 03, 2025, 02:19 PMQuote from: granz on Sep 28, 2025, 09:43 PMNow that the meetup is over, my next project has to be getting this (and/or my Neptune) printer up and running (after I get my main computer up and running.) I have too many things that need 3D printing, so a printer must be next.
Good luck, granz!
Thank you, but this week has been a total bust, so far. I still haven't gotten everything put back on my computer, and I have had terrible pain three out of five days this week. Plus we have had out of the house appointments for every day except for Monday - when we were too tired to do anything. Well, next week should be better - I hope.
Feel better. That's an ORDER!! lol Good luck on your printer, I need to try mine again.
Quote from: granz on Oct 03, 2025, 06:04 PMI have had terrible pain three out of five days this week. Plus we have had out of the house appointments for every day except for Monday - when we were too tired to do anything. Well, next week should be better - I hope.
Hope you feel better soon. :(
Quote from: JKnightandKARR on Oct 03, 2025, 09:22 PMFeel better. That's an ORDER!! lol
Sir, Yes, Sir! ;D
Quote from: JKnightandKARR on Oct 03, 2025, 09:22 PMGood luck on your printer, I need to try mine again.
Quote from: Chris Savage on Oct 03, 2025, 10:46 PMHope you feel better soon. :(
Thank you, both of you guys.
Quote from: granz on Aug 25, 2025, 04:56 PMQuote from: JKnightandKARR on Aug 25, 2025, 04:18 PMWhat does the nozzle look like?? If it's like the Neptune 2, those are really cheap.
Edit: looked. Do you just replace the whole hotend assembly to change nozzles??
Yeah, it looks like you replace the entire hotend. If that's all that I need, I found one for $35, with two-day delivery (less than $2 more than one which will be delivered in later Sept. >:( ) If I need the entire assembly, then that raises it up to $85 (with tax, that is over the price of my printer, plus shipping, no estimate on shipping cost, nor do they even try to give a delivery date.) I also found an extruder assembly on Amazon, but that is $130, plus tax, and delivery is also the second half of September. >:(
I'm going to quit for now. Maybe after an evening with my girl-friend (best friend/buddy/partner/lover/wife ;) ) and a good night's sleep, things won't looks so bad.
Well, I finally found out how to remove the hot end. The original single duct fan venting was replaced by the guy that sold it to me, and replaced with a better dual-duct vent (blows from both sides of the hot end.) Unfortunately, this also blocked the hot end and prevented me from being able to pull it out.
I found a video where You Tuber, Just Vlad, showed accessories for this printer. One of the accessories was the dual-duct vent. Although I had found these before, this was the first video where he showed how to replace the original.
(Check out starting at the 17:00 time point.)
With this, I was able to remove the vent, and pull the hot end. There was some filament which was stuck in the hot end, so I had to clip that, and remove the filament. New hot end went in nice and easy, replace the filament with a roll straight out of the Zip-loc with the desiccant, and...
(https://files.granzeier.com/Downloads/SavageCircuits/Epoxy%20Tray.jpg)
(This is an epoxy mixing tray. A simple quick print that 3D Printing Canada shows on what to do with the last little bit of filament. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiVHDMfWe0c&t=357s)
There is one more thing that I want to print. Just Vlad mentions in the video that the Bowden tube is a bit loose on the feeder mechanism. So, he put one of these (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2994683 braces in and it cleaned up the stringing really nicely.
(https://resize.thingiverse.com/?url=https://cdn.thingiverse.com/renders/aa/d2/2c/9e/43/ac813028cb5f484e45a7754326726007.png&w=200&h=150&fit=contain&cbg=white&n=-1)
Quote from: granz on Aug 11, 2025, 11:21 AM...Worst case, there have been a few people who say that replacing the nozzle (about $35) makes the printer run like new. After that, I'll need to make sure to set the printer settings correctly.
Well, after (
finally) getting the nozzle replaced, I have to agree. Having a working 3D printer is lots of fun. I can hardly wait for the larger print volume and multi-color printing of the A1.