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Title: DFRobot Electric Solenoid Lock
Post by: Chris Savage on Sep 08, 2025, 09:05 AM
I picked four of these up for testing with custom-built lock boxes. They aren't expensive for what they are, but the shipping was ridiculous! Originally I was going to buy two, but the shipping cost more than the sub-total!

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High-quality electric solenoid lock (https://www.dfrobot.com/product-1856.html) with durable steel parts. Features signal feedback, IoT compatibility, and operates at 9-12V DC.

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Title: Re: DFRobot Electric Solenoid Lock
Post by: Chris Savage on Sep 16, 2025, 10:43 PM
My order finally arrived today via UPS.

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One of these modules is slated for testing ASAP. I need to go over the specifications for these modules before I decide how I am going to drive them. I'm not really a fan of the application example from the DFRobot website (https://www.dfrobot.com/product-1856.html?srsltid=AfmBOoqktICSzmhQ31BjY6YTexEVD-imlpkVGGVIy3tCR-rn6iXYnDES).



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This is what comes in each package. It connects directly to the power source as well as to the control circuit.
Title: Re: DFRobot Electric Solenoid Lock
Post by: granz on Sep 17, 2025, 07:23 AM
Are you planning on putting these on your house's doors? Will this be part of your home control security system?
Title: Re: DFRobot Electric Solenoid Lock
Post by: Chris Savage on Sep 17, 2025, 09:55 AM
Quote from: granz on Sep 17, 2025, 07:23 AMAre you planning on putting these on your house's doors? Will this be part of your home control security system?

While these are pretty solid units, for my purposes they're intended for a lock-box and / or access door (non-human). When these unlock, they sort of eject the metal loop. The metal loop must be pressed back into the latch to lock it again. So in a way these work similar to the Amazon lockers in that the door opens itself, then must be manually closed.
Title: Re: DFRobot Electric Solenoid Lock
Post by: Chris Savage on Oct 13, 2025, 05:55 PM
Quote from: granz on Sep 17, 2025, 07:23 AMAre you planning on putting these on your house's doors? Will this be part of your home control security system?

I was a little confused at first about the actual operation of these latches, but now that I've had time to examine things a little closer, it's much more clear. Essentially you energize the "coil" for ~1 second to unlatch the lock. The other wire that I initially thought was a trigger, is actually a sensor that lets you know if the latch is in the locked / unlocked position.

The caveat is that you do need either a relay or FET (with flyback diode) to control the coil. In the DFRobot example they're using this relay (https://www.dfrobot.com/product-64.html).
Title: Re: DFRobot Electric Solenoid Lock
Post by: JKnightandKARR on Oct 13, 2025, 11:16 PM
Quote from: Chris Savage on Oct 13, 2025, 05:55 PM
Quote from: granz on Sep 17, 2025, 07:23 AMAre you planning on putting these on your house's doors? Will this be part of your home control security system?

I was a little confused at first about the actual operation of these latches, but now that I've had time to examine things a little closer, it's much more clear. Essentially you energize the "coil" for ~1 second to unlatch the lock. The other wire that I initially thought was a trigger, is actually a sensor that lets you know if the latch is in the locked / unlocked position.

The caveat is that you do need either a relay or FET (with flyback diode) to control the coil. In the DFRobot example they're using this relay (https://www.dfrobot.com/product-64.html).
Make it open like this!!!
Title: Re: DFRobot Electric Solenoid Lock
Post by: Chris Savage on Oct 13, 2025, 11:42 PM
Quote from: JKnightandKARR on Oct 13, 2025, 11:16 PMMake it open like this!!!

Now that seems a little extreme!  :P
Title: Re: DFRobot Electric Solenoid Lock
Post by: granz on Oct 14, 2025, 07:51 AM
Quote from: JKnightandKARR on Oct 13, 2025, 11:16 PMMake it open like this!!!
Wow, Chris, I did not realize that you lived in outer space! It must be rough having Borgs at your door - worse than sales people wanting to change you utility companies, I would think. ;D
Title: Re: DFRobot Electric Solenoid Lock
Post by: Chris Savage on Oct 14, 2025, 09:22 AM
Quote from: granz on Oct 14, 2025, 07:51 AMWow, Chris, I did not realize that you lived in outer space! It must be rough having Borgs at your door - worse than sales people wanting to change you utility companies, I would think. ;D

Borg are like the cockroaches of the galaxy. But, as for the latches, as soon as I decide what I will use to switch the coil, I will construct a lockbox that utilizes it. Years ago I wanted to build a reverse geocache, but I doubt I will do that now. The current concept is to use an RFID Reader to pop the box open.
Title: Re: DFRobot Electric Solenoid Lock
Post by: granz on Oct 14, 2025, 02:59 PM
Quote from: Chris Savage on Oct 14, 2025, 09:22 AMBorg are like the cockroaches of the galaxy.
Nah, that honor belongs to:
;D
Title: Re: DFRobot Electric Solenoid Lock
Post by: Chris Savage on Oct 14, 2025, 03:52 PM
Quote from: granz on Oct 14, 2025, 02:59 PMNah, that honor belongs to: ;D

That was a great episode though.  ;)
Title: Re: DFRobot Electric Solenoid Lock
Post by: JKnightandKARR on Oct 14, 2025, 09:08 PM
Quote from: Chris Savage on Oct 13, 2025, 11:42 PM
Quote from: JKnightandKARR on Oct 13, 2025, 11:16 PMMake it open like this!!!

Now that seems a little extreme!  :P
That depends... lol but it would be interesting. lol
Title: Re: DFRobot Electric Solenoid Lock
Post by: JKnightandKARR on Oct 14, 2025, 09:11 PM
Quote from: Chris Savage on Oct 14, 2025, 03:52 PM
Quote from: granz on Oct 14, 2025, 02:59 PMNah, that honor belongs to: ;D

That was a great episode though.  ;)
So THAT'S where the Radroaches in Fallout came from! lol
Title: Re: DFRobot Electric Solenoid Lock
Post by: Chris Savage on Oct 15, 2025, 09:44 AM
Quote from: JKnightandKARR on Oct 14, 2025, 09:11 PMSo THAT'S where the Radroaches in Fallout came from! lol

What he posted was a video from Stargate: SG-1 where the replicators took over Apophis' ship and SG-1 was sabotaging it to crash into the planet. But, what's important to know is that, in the Stargate universe, the most advanced "living" race was unable to defeat the replicators. They were a scourge on multiple universes and the cause of the extinction of the race that is responsible for their creation.

I say it that was, because one person from that race created an android child, who in turn created a replicator as a toy, then lost control of her emotions causing them to go haywire, replicate and kill everyone. During the time in that clip the replicators are out of control just trying to replicate and expand.
Title: Re: DFRobot Electric Solenoid Lock
Post by: JKnightandKARR on Oct 15, 2025, 11:48 AM
Quote from: Chris Savage on Oct 15, 2025, 09:44 AM
Quote from: JKnightandKARR on Oct 14, 2025, 09:11 PMSo THAT'S where the Radroaches in Fallout came from! lol

What he posted was a video from Stargate: SG-1 where the replicators took over Apophis' ship and SG-1 was sabotaging it to crash into the planet. But, what's important to know is that, in the Stargate universe, the most advanced "living" race was unable to defeat the replicators. They were a scourge on multiple universes and the cause of the extinction of the race that is responsible for their creation.

I say it that was, because one person from that race created an android child, who in turn created a replicator as a toy, then lost control of her emotions causing them to go haywire, replicate and kill everyone. During the time in that clip the replicators are out of control just trying to replicate and expand.
I saw that link above, but reminds me of these annoying things.. lol
Title: Re: DFRobot Electric Solenoid Lock
Post by: Chris Savage on Oct 15, 2025, 12:03 PM
Quote from: JKnightandKARR on Oct 15, 2025, 11:48 AMI saw that link above, but reminds me of these annoying things.. lol

I'm having flashbacks to the movie, Damnation Alley (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075909/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk) from 1977!


Specifically, this scene!  :o
Title: Re: DFRobot Electric Solenoid Lock
Post by: JKnightandKARR on Oct 15, 2025, 04:32 PM
Quote from: Chris Savage on Oct 15, 2025, 12:03 PM
Quote from: JKnightandKARR on Oct 15, 2025, 11:48 AMI saw that link above, but reminds me of these annoying things.. lol

I'm having flashbacks to the movie, Damnation Alley (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075909/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk) from 1977!


Specifically, this scene!  :o
It's Fallout with bugs vs the Scorched n Ghouls. Lol
Title: Re: DFRobot Electric Solenoid Lock
Post by: Chris Savage on Oct 22, 2025, 12:50 PM
Quote from: JKnightandKARR on Oct 15, 2025, 04:32 PMIt's Fallout with bugs vs the Scorched n Ghouls. Lol

This movie IS post-apocalypse, so yeah. Fits right into the "Fallout" theme, just from the 70s.
Title: Re: DFRobot Electric Solenoid Lock
Post by: JKnightandKARR on Oct 22, 2025, 01:01 PM
Quote from: Chris Savage on Oct 22, 2025, 12:50 PM
Quote from: JKnightandKARR on Oct 15, 2025, 04:32 PMIt's Fallout with bugs vs the Scorched n Ghouls. Lol

This movie IS post-apocalypse, so yeah. Fits right into the "Fallout" theme, just from the 70s.
Cool, I just finished watching Fallout S1 on DVD last night.
Title: Re: DFRobot Electric Solenoid Lock
Post by: Chris Savage on Oct 22, 2025, 02:05 PM
Quote from: JKnightandKARR on Oct 22, 2025, 01:01 PMCool, I just finished watching Fallout S1 on DVD last night.

And here I thought we were talking about the video games!  :o  LOL

Back on the subject of these latches. I thought of another use for them in terms of kind of a reverse logic.

Many years ago (like 35+), we used to catch squirrels and pigeons using box traps, where the critter would go under the wooden box to get a treat and you would pull the rope, removing the stick that held the box up. Gravity would drop the box and you usually caught your critter.

Once in a while the squirrels would either get hit by the box, or escape altogether. It occurred to me that you could use these latches to release a spring-loaded door that closes, rather than releasing a door to open. It might be usable in a situation where you're trying to live-catch a critter. Just a thought. What do y'all think?
Title: Re: DFRobot Electric Solenoid Lock
Post by: JKnightandKARR on Oct 22, 2025, 03:57 PM
Quote from: Chris Savage on Oct 22, 2025, 02:05 PM
Quote from: JKnightandKARR on Oct 22, 2025, 01:01 PMCool, I just finished watching Fallout S1 on DVD last night.

And here I thought we were talking about the video games!  :o  LOL

Back on the subject of these latches. I thought of another use for them in terms of kind of a reverse logic.

Many years ago (like 35+), we used to catch squirrels and pigeons using box traps, where the critter would go under the wooden box to get a treat and you would pull the rope, removing the stick that held the box up. Gravity would drop the box and you usually caught your critter.

Once in a while the squirrels would either get hit by the box, or escape altogether. It occurred to me that you could use these latches to release a spring-loaded door that closes, rather than releasing a door to open. It might be usable in a situation where you're trying to live-catch a critter. Just a thought. What do y'all think?
That sounds viable option.